Attention: PROnetworks has upgraded our forum from phpbb2 to phpbb3!!

Please head over to our new converted forum at: http://www.pronetworks.org/forums/

This old forum will remain 'read-only' until approximately February 2009. We look forward to seeing you at the new forum!
Author Message
Wai_Wai
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:17 pm Reply with quote

PRO Level 2
 
 


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 19
Location: Globe
How serious PSU aging is?
Aging occurs and this will affect the power supply.

1) How serious is aging? How much percentage of power supply will be lost after, say, 5 years of usage? Is there any article which research the aging effect?

2) For whatever reasons, BSOD has been triggered. Doe BSOD hurts any physical component?

3) If it somewhat falls below the maximum watt required by my system, what will happen? Will my other components be physically damaged?

4) When it is old or weak or next to death, is there any sign I can notice before tragedy occurs (eg fire, damaged CPU/RAM/mobo etc.)?

Thanks. smile
 
Back to top
yeshuas
Daniel Schmidt
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:32 pm Reply with quote

Support Team
 
 


Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 3394
Location: Chicago, IL
For less than $20 you can go to radio shack or order from radio shack a ThermalTake Dr. Power "edited/added which is a power supply tester"
 
Back to top
augie
Algis Koscus
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:20 pm Reply with quote

Community Director
 
 


Joined: 25 Aug 2002
Posts: 17725
Location: Laurentians, Quebec
yeshuas wrote:
For less than $20 you can go to radio shack or order from radio shack a Thermatak Dr. Power


LOL, sounds like a cheap man's ThermalTake TruePower who can't spell, of which I have a 420W. I belive yeshuas is tired as I would never recommend a noname piece of crap like that. wink

PSU's do degrade over time, I did some research last year on PSU degradation and I found that they degrade at about %10 a year. What I have always done was use a PSU calculator, using the higher of the options and adding %50 and it's doing well so far with a decent namebrand PSU.

We have a thread back in the DB as we discussed this at length last year IIRC. I'll try to find it again. One of our hardware guys will be by to give you extra info.
 
Back to top
yeshuas
Daniel Schmidt
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:27 pm Reply with quote

Support Team
 
 


Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 3394
Location: Chicago, IL
augie wrote:
yeshuas wrote:
For less than $20 you can go to radio shack or order from radio shack a Thermatak Dr. Power


LOL, sounds like a cheap man's ThermalTake TruePower who can't spell, of which I have a 420W. I belive yeshuas is tired as I would never recommend a noname piece of crap like that. wink

PSU's do degrade over time, I did some research last year on PSU degradation and I found that they degrade at about %10 a year. What I have always done was use a PSU calculator, using the higher of the options and adding %50 and it's doing well so far with a decent namebrand PSU.

We have a thread back in the DB as we discussed this at length last year IIRC. I'll try to find it again. One of our hardware guys will be by to give you extra info.

It's not a power supply it is a Power Supply tester
 
Back to top
augie
Algis Koscus
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:29 pm Reply with quote

Community Director
 
 


Joined: 25 Aug 2002
Posts: 17725
Location: Laurentians, Quebec
Quote:
It's not a power supply it is a Power Supply tester


Oopsie, hehe. oops
 
Back to top
yeshuas
Daniel Schmidt
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:59 pm Reply with quote

Support Team
 
 


Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 3394
Location: Chicago, IL
I should have checked my post better, embarrassed I was typing in a hurry.
Trying to figure out a problem with a laptop. Can't figure out if it has a bad battery, charger or what. Even with the charger plugged in it won't start. My guess would be the battery, is not holding a charge, but it seems that it would still work as long as the charger is plugged in, but laptops are not my area of expertise.
 
Back to top
Wai_Wai
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:26 pm Reply with quote

PRO Level 2
 
 


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 19
Location: Globe
yeshuas wrote:
For less than $20 you can go to radio shack or order from radio shack a ThermalTake Dr. Power "edited/added which is a power supply tester"


First is it accurate? I heard that we need to buy something more expensive. A $20 is not good enough. I'm not certain though.

It doesn't help unless I keep checking my PSU but I know I won't. Who has the time to keep checking every component?

So is it the only way to detect possible failure or fall-below before disaster?
 
Back to top
Wai_Wai
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:33 pm Reply with quote

PRO Level 2
 
 


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 19
Location: Globe
augie wrote:

PSU's do degrade over time, I did some research last year on PSU degradation and I found that they degrade at about %10 a year. What I have always done was use a PSU calculator, using the higher of the options and adding %50 and it's doing well so far with a decent namebrand PSU.


WOW. That's a big degradation. If the degradation is linear, the power supply will be halved after 5 years. Is that really the case after 5 years?

It seems a good brand of PSU with proper care can last more than 5 years.

If I need max 250W (normally >100W), I need to buy 500W.
But it will cause inefficiency problem since my PSU is underloading.
Inefficiency => more heat => faster aging. dgi

Quote:
We have a thread back in the DB as we discussed this at length last year IIRC. I'll try to find it again. One of our hardware guys will be by to give you extra info.


Any clues about the subject heading, or any special words you have used in the discussion? I searched a bit but couldn't find it.
 
Back to top
Computerwiz2489
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:37 pm Reply with quote

PRO Level 17
 
 


Joined: 18 Oct 2003
Posts: 2236
Location: Pro Networks forum board
Degradation of a PSU depends on two things and they're directly related IMO.
1, the capacitors being used in a power supply
2, the amount of heat going through the power supply which causes the capacitors to lose efficiency.

Bad, cheap caps = lower life because they will "pop" faster from what I've looked online.

PSU aging is serious in this case. I would assume inefficient caps would give off more heat than they normally do... and you know what this could lead to.
 
Back to top
yeshuas
Daniel Schmidt
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:42 pm Reply with quote

Support Team
 
 


Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 3394
Location: Chicago, IL
Wai_Wai wrote:
yeshuas wrote:
For less than $20 you can go to radio shack or order from radio shack a ThermalTake Dr. Power "edited/added which is a power supply tester"


First is it accurate? I heard that we need to buy something more expensive. A $20 is not good enough. I'm not certain though.

It doesn't help unless I keep checking my PSU but I know I won't. Who has the time to keep checking every component?

So is it the only way to detect possible failure or fall-below before disaster?

I use it in my business, it may not be the best, but does work.
 
Back to top
Back to top
Index >> Hardware and Computer Customizing Center >> How serious PSU aging is?

Goto page 1, 2  Next

Page 1 of 2

 


Tired of the Ads? Registered users have 80% less adverts.